Conquering Imposter Syndrome & Building a Million Dollar Brand | Romy van der Merew

Romy van der Merwe is a powerful female business owner and life coach offering cutting edge insights on entrepreneurship, building your personal brand, and dominating the social spheres of business, wealth, and success. Romy is also experienced in real estate and offers extraordinary perspectives into scaling and investing.

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Timestamps:
[00:00]: Intro
[00:29]: Romy's Origins to Business
[02:50]: The Importance of Doing What You Love
[04:15]: The Grind Required to Succeed
[04:48]: Overcoming Imposter Syndrome
[10:05]: The Secret to the Winning Mindset
[11:36]: Need Marketing and Advertising?
[14:47]: Lessons Learned from Corporate World
[16:55]: Learning from Those Ahead of You
[18:54]: Life Coaches to Follow
[21:48]: Consistency and Persistence = Success
[23:10]: Transition from 9 to 5 to Entrepreneur
[25:13]: Scaling Past $10K Per Month
[26:39]: Real Estate and the Vest Times to Invest
[28:42]: How to Start Investing
[30:20]: Find a Trustworthy Network
[33:34]: Attaining Goals
[36:42]: Get More Clients and Boost Revenue.
[38:22]: Romy's Personal Goals
[41:27]: Balance is Key to Success
[43:55]: Final Remarks

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Chapters

• 0:00 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome in Business
• 9:06 Navigating Imposter Syndrome and Entrepreneurship
• 14:38 Lessons From Corporate to Entrepreneurial Success
• 22:27 The Art of Persistence and Entrepreneurship
• 27:56 Real Estate Investing and Personal Growth
• 35:19 Building Community and Personal Growth
• 43:55 Social Media Presence and Coaching Offers

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Romy Vandermeer, an accomplished imposter syndrome and career coach based in North Vancouver, British Columbia, Romy helps professionals confidently accelerate their careers by overcoming imposter syndrome and embracing their true potential. With a rich background that includes nearly two decades of corporate experience, fluency in three different languages and a history as an international competitive swimmer, Romy brings a unique and inspiring story to the table. Thanks for being with us today, Romy.

Speaker 2: 0:24

Thank you so much for having me and thank you for that wonderful intro. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1: 0:27

Yes, absolutely, Absolutely. So your journey is very unique. You were an athlete as well as myself. I was, I played football and baseball in college and you were a swimmer international swimmer, correct?

Speaker 2: 0:40

Yes, yes, correct, yeah, so I only one, though it's amazing that you had two sports that you were there for, so I was just swimming.

Speaker 1: 0:48

So what made you want to get into entrepreneurship? What was that journey? And tell us a little bit more about that story.

Speaker 2: 0:54

Well, honestly, entrepreneurship has always been part of my DNA. It's always been something that I wanted to do and I think that I've been drawn to. I think it comes very much from the sporting side of things. So especially swimming is a very much an individual person's sport right, like you do have your relays and that but it's very much individual and I've just always been drawn to the harder you work yourself, the more you can achieve side of things. So it's, yeah, I've also my real estate. I've always done my own thing being part of a company, but I've always been self-employed in some way, shape or form.

Speaker 2: 1:29

But the life coaching really just came about as gosh. There were so many different things that happened in my life, but the biggest thing that got me into life coaching really was after I had just had my second baby. I had just had my second baby, so I was. I think it was a month after just having the second baby, the team that I was working with decided to cut me out of a commission completely on a deal that I was part of, anyway. So, long story short, got the commission, but it was just.

Speaker 2: 1:55

It was such a defining moment for me where I put all this work and this effort in, and I was.

Speaker 2: 1:59

It was one month after giving birth and I was just, I was exhausted, I was overwhelmed, I was just I was exhausted, I was overwhelmed, I was tired and I just I wanted to, to just give up. Then, and all these thoughts of you know what, maybe I must just just not fight so hard and maybe I just should let go and maybe I should just let them, you know, do what it is that they're doing. And I just got to a point where I'm like, no, no, it's been, it's been such a slug for so many years and I'm not ready to give up. And I just had this change in me and I just really want to help anyone else that goes through this, where they have the sense of overwhelm and they have these things that happen to them over and over again, where they just feel small and are kept into their little boxes, and to help them really to find their own voice again, to find their identity, to get out of the box and really live their life to their fullest capacity.

Speaker 1: 2:48

I love that and, honestly, that's what it's all about. Most of the entrepreneurs I talk to it's usually for the same reasons. We all get into it, right, it's for the freedom, it's for the independence, and it's typically a story like that that kind of leads you into this. I don't know what it is, but it's like a calling and it just kind of. It's like a magnet, right, something happens in life and it just pushes you, it opens more doors, right. And so that's why I'm such an advocate for entrepreneurship and business and I love to have guests like you on, especially because everybody's getting into business today. What do you think they should do to start in order to get them to where they want to go?

Speaker 2: 3:25

Well, I think the very first thing that is super important is to absolutely be crystal, crystal clear and know what it is that you want to do. So it's good like knowing oh, you know what I want to start my own thing and I want to have this freedom and I want to have all this time. That's wonderful and that's part of it but to actually really, really know deeply what is it that I want? What am I passionate about? What can I wake up in the morning excited about to get to do? And I think that's a thing that we tend to miss. So it's getting really absolutely clear on the goal what it is that you really want to do, and then to stack on that with why are you doing it? So, really, what are the motivations behind it? Who are you doing it for? Why are you doing it? Is it to provide legacy for your family? Is it to be a role model for your kids? Is it to help others? What is it that really gets you motivated to stay on track?

Speaker 1: 4:12

Yeah, I think that's great advice. That's true. On your way to success, there's going to be a lot of setbacks. There's going to be a lot of things that push you forward as well, though, and so you got to know what you want. You got to have a good direction. I actually just spoke with Richard Walsh, who's a big investor, and that's much of his message. Right Like picking out a car, you got to know what you're looking for. You got to know what you want Absolutely yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 4:32

It's very true with business, and you know, especially this world of you know, imposter syndrome. It's a big thing, it's a real thing, right, and so you have to know yourself. It's what's the saying Know thyself, right?

Speaker 2: 4:44

So know thyself. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 4:46

Tell us more about that. You know what is imposter syndrome. What is that feeling that is so hard to overcome, and why is it hard to overcome?

Speaker 2: 5:10

no-transcript. It can be like am I a good enough partner? Am I a good enough friend? Am I a good enough parent? So it's these type of feelings that can happen across the board, really. But how it shows up and the biggest thing, which is probably also the best known, is just this being in a position, whatever it is, and this fear of being found out of am I actually really capable of doing this and how did I land myself in this role? And when are they going to find out that I'm actually not capable of doing what everyone thinks that I'm doing? And disregarding all the achievements that you've had up until such state, and just always getting yourself into such a state of overwhelm and stress about being found out. And it's a really it's a big thing because it takes up so much of your mental capacity and mental state that it really takes you away from what it is that you can really do. But what I also want to mention is imposter syndrome, because it is such a broad thing and there's so many different, let's say, symptoms of what imposter syndrome could potentially be. One has to really do an internal inventory and see if you really do have imposter syndrome or is it just situational.

Speaker 2: 6:21

So just by way of a very quick example here, if you, let's say you have a presentation coming up, person A, person B, person A knows this presentation is coming up and they don't really do much for it for whatever reason. On the day they're like oh my goodness, I haven't prepared, I'm going to make mistakes. What if I fail? What do they think that I can't do this? And then they do the presentation presentation's okay, and then they find they claim the win and they move on.

Speaker 2: 6:43

Now person B will start over-preparing immediately, having these thoughts from day one like why did they pick me? I don't know if I'm actually capable of doing this, I don't know if I'm able to do this. What if I make mistakes? What if they're going to laugh at me? What if I'm going to be fired? And like all these thoughts that just happen for the up until the presentation Presentation happens. They do really well, and then, instead of claiming the win of having done a presentation, it's more of a sense of relief Thank goodness, okay, it worked out this time, until next time when it repeats. So it's really like is it a situational thing or is it a recurring pattern? And that's a big definition or defining thing for imposter syndrome.

Speaker 1: 7:24

I think that's a very real thing too. Yeah, especially when you start to do anything that's kind of outside of society's norm, like start a podcast, or you want to be an actor, you want to be an artist, an entertainer, whatever it might be, and you always are going to have those things, those emotions in your head, right, you're always going to have those ideas. Was I meant for this? Am I the one who should be doing this? Am I even trained? Am I experienced? Am I good enough? And there's always those doubts, and so that's why I'm such an advocate of just going so full force in and not even worrying about all of that, and just getting the work done, you know, and executing on the work, and I think that's a great way to accomplish and overcome imposter syndrome as well.

Speaker 2: 8:06

It absolutely is. But it also depends a little bit on, like how long have you been having this imposter syndrome and how long have you really been feeling this. Because if you are in such a state where you just do not have inherent confidence and trust in yourself, then that does need to be unpacked a little bit so that you could start building your confidence and start really trusting yourself a little bit, so that you can take the next step. And also, like you're saying, like taking action is super, super important, but every action has a consequence. So little steps move the needle, as much as you know. So it's important to have those little steps just to keep going, keep the consistency. But I really do believe that it starts with an internal confidence and internal intrinsic belief in self, so that you are confident to continue taking those steps going forward.

Speaker 1: 8:56

Yeah, you know it's very accurate. Yeah, you got to believe before you can see almost, and that's kind of the magic behind it, and so that's kind of the that's the magic behind it, and so that's kind of. That's always been my solution. You know, that's always my advice to anybody who's hey, you know, how do I get through imposter syndrome or how do I get through? You know, I got all these negative comments. I'm like listen, negative comments are part of it. You know that's part of it. But much more people are going to be supportive, Much more people are going to be inspired at the very least. Right, so you have to just keep going. You have to take action, of course, but, like you said, you have to have those. You know you have to. You have to have those moments where you do some soul searching, and I definitely agree with that.

Speaker 2: 9:32

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And unpacking to see if it's a recurring pattern, if it's situational. If it's, you know how long has it been going on? Is it only in one element of your life? Is it across the board? So it's quite a bit of a deep process to really unpack that, then to deal with it and then to move on from there.

Speaker 1: 9:50

Yeah, and as someone who's won sets gold medals, you would know. You know what was that at the African Games, or?

Speaker 2: 9:56

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That was. Was it in Cairo? I forget what year it was, maybe 2003. I forget what it was, yeah.

Speaker 1: 10:03

Right, somebody who's done that how. What's some good advice for our audience on? You know how to transfer the disciplines and the mindset from your athletic career to the coaching mindset, but also to the business, the entrepreneurship, or just going to your job, and you know getting things done and accomplishing those difficult tasks in order to get you the success you're looking for.

Speaker 2: 10:21

Good, good question. So I think for me and I learned this the hard way is um, failure happens. Right, you're not going to win every race. You're not going to medal every time. Sometimes you, in my case, you mess up a turn, you mess up the start, and that just blows your entire race and instead of getting stuck on the I messed up my turn, or I didn't have a good start, or I just whatever went wrong within that race, think about, okay, so what went wrong? How could I have a good start? Or I just whatever went wrong within that race. Think about okay, so what went wrong? How could I have done that? What can I train on? How can I fix that?

Speaker 2: 10:49

So, going forward, this problem won't, or this won't, happen again. So it's really taking that small element, working on it till you're confident on that and then moving on to the next thing, and it's the same thing with business. Right, you're not going to from day one. What's the saying? Right, you're not going to from day one? What's the saying you're not going to be a millionaire by monday. You have to. You have to start, and your first time you start you'll make a mistake. The next time you'll do it again, you'll get, but every time you make a mistake you can learn something from that. And that um is it tony robbins? I think that that coined the phrase. But when you learn something, then knowledge is power and power then gets you going forward. So it's really just taking the win in every aspect, no matter how big or how small it is, turning that into a positive for you to learn from and then to move forward from.

Speaker 1: 11:36

For reasons. It's important to be a motivated individual. If you want to live in beautiful mansions that have potential and just houses that can change your life, if you want to have a life that can be better, then you need to be an entrepreneur, you need to get into business because, guess what? There's a huge value to being brave, to taking risks. Fortune favors the bold. Fortune favors those who are willing to go against the status quo. Take a look at these houses. You could have this if you're motivated. You can have this life if you really want it. Do the research. These houses are quite a million, quite a few million, but if you really want it, bad enough, you can have a house like this, and that's really what it takes. You got to be motivated, you got to be in business, you got to be an entrepreneur. You got to be able to start businesses, own businesses and not have to work inside of the business. You got to learn how to make compound interest.

Speaker 1: 12:31

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Speaker 3: 13:27

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Speaker 1: 14:35

Yes, yeah, that's very good advice. With nearly two decades of experience in the corporate world, what are some surprising lessons you've learned that you could pass on to your clients or myself or anybody really listening?

Speaker 2: 14:48

That's a good question. So the first thing that comes to mind really is there's a big difference. I found there was a big difference in corporate in America versus Northern America versus in South Africa. People are really, really important. So it's important to connect with people and connect with people in a real way, not just a surface level way, because life happens right and if you're in a corporate environment and you're in a little silo, you don't have anyone to help you or to work with or to you know, to mentor you, whatever it is. So I think the biggest lesson learned is not to go at it alone, Like you don't have to do things alone. Work with people, forge alliances, work with mentors, whatever it is. You don't go at it alone. And when you're having a bad day, that you have someone that you can lean on, even someone to speak to in the office, whatever it is. But the big thing is, don't go at it alone. There is, even if you're a solopreneur, you don't have to do it alone.

Speaker 2: 15:42

You can always get help and guidance and whatever from external people. But what I do want to say to that is oftentimes not really friends and family, because friends and family are either one of two things they're either super, super supportive and tell you you're doing amazing, you don't need to do anything differently, everything is wonderful. Or they go into the overcritical so it's finding someone who's a little bit impartial, like a work colleague would be great, or anyone like that.

Speaker 1: 16:08

And having an accountability partner. Really, I think that's great. I love that you included the family and the parents. It's definitely a real. That's a real, real, real problem and you know the process of being an entrepreneur for anybody listening is. Good luck with that. Your family is tough too. It's tough to overcome that right, and that's very true. Either they're going to be very supportive or that's going to be. You're crazy. What are you doing?

Speaker 2: 16:26

you're crazy.

Speaker 1: 16:26

Yes, no sense you could have a stable paycheck every single week. You could have this exactly life. You know health insurance, all of this, but you want to go and build something of your own.

Speaker 1: 16:37

Go, work for that, that you know, and I'm just like I want to be that guy, though, you know, and so that's I love that you'd say that and especially working with other people. You know when you're working with other people, you know when you work alone you might go faster, but when you work with a team you go further, and so I definitely agree.

Speaker 2: 16:55

Absolutely, and you can. Also. You know what it does. You don't have to work with someone who's like 100 steps ahead of you. You can work with someone who's just maybe 10 steps ahead of you, but you can learn from them so you don't have to make the same mistakes they did and it, in that way, it does also get you ahead faster.

Speaker 1: 17:08

So it's um, yeah, I strongly believe in that yeah, typically you want to work with somebody who's just a little bit ahead of you too, because that way they're not so far ahead of you that like, oh, what are you even doing Talking to me? You know, I got all this. I'm trying to be on the beach right now and Coco.

Speaker 4: 17:23

Okay.

Speaker 1: 17:24

Right, you want somebody who's just like okay, well, I, just I, yeah, we just did this like a year or two ago. Okay, yeah, let me show you how we did it. And so that's really what's given agency owners who just know more than me, They've been in, they've been doing a little bit longer. You know they have better strategy and you kind of work off of that, you bounce off of each other, right, I'm sure as a life coach, you probably have different life coaches that you connect with and you're like okay, I like what they're doing. Okay, well, that didn't work, you know, maybe we'll do this instead.

Speaker 2: 17:53

Well, you know, and I just want to touch on two things that you mentioned there. So the first thing is yes, as a life coach, absolutely, I believe, like no one, no one knows everything Right, so I can always learn from someone. I also need to get my mindset on track, so I've always got some kind of a coach in my corner in some way, shape or form, someone to just like you know, get my mind right, to bounce ideas off, to just't possibly know everything, you can't. You're open to learning from other people in a collaborative way that pulls you forward. So, yes, it's definitely definitely important, I believe, to have people in your corner.

Speaker 1: 18:34

Who are some big inspirations in the life coaching field. I know you mentioned Tony Robbins is one. I really love, tony Robbins. Any modern day gurus, or you know modern day gurus who are your favorite ones that are attracting your eye and kind of who do you think is going and doing some big things today, or who just inspired you?

Speaker 2: 18:58

really jumped to mind immediately. Um, and they're very much in my orbit, uh, first one is mark van muser. Um, he's just launched his own company I think it's called sales alchemy or so um, he is just an incredibly inspirational, um mindset coach, really. So he's, he's really a phenomenal human being who just lifts you up. He's wonderful. Then, um, uh, jesse um, she's a very heart centered coach. Um, also, just again, being in her presence makes you feel amazing. And then Brooke Bishop, and Brooke Bishop, um, they all, I mean, they all coaches, but Brooke Bishop is a very tangible, hands-on person who can, like, help you with immediate things. So they, they, for me, they cover all three elements, um, and they just they're good people, they're really just wonderful human beings and make you really feel good and make you feel confident and help you build your confidence and help you get going, and so they are specifically coaches for coaches. And so, yeah, those are the three that jumped to mind immediately.

Speaker 1: 19:52

Those are some good ones too. Yeah, I've seen some other work. I definitely like it. Yeah, I like the answers. My favorite life coaches through the years have been um. Definitely Tony Robbins was one of the first ones. He was like the first life coach I started. I was like introduced to him, like okay, I like that, I like that positivity, I like the mindset. And then I started watching more um. You know Joel Osteen's not. He's more of like a prosperity gospel, but you know much of what he talks about is very you know, life coach and you know he sells lots of books and he's been doing the um. He's been doing the speaking thing for a long time.

Speaker 1: 20:25

He does the same show every week and I'm, like, honestly, still impressed by it. He still looks the same. So that's always been intriguing to me with, uh, joel olsteen's and I think so interesting work, even though he's not like a life coach per se, he's more like like you know, he's more of a pastor, right, but you know, I just find that interesting. But some of those are some of mine like for today. I like Tai Lopez, right, alex Ramosi that's kind of my generation.

Speaker 2: 20:47

We like them, but yeah, I like.

Speaker 1: 20:51

Ramosi. He's smart, it's just, it's crazy. He's done some amazing things with social media. I mean, every podcast I listen to, I hear him mentioned, and now I'm doing it. So yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:04

What I love about Alex's story specifically is he is very transparent about like it's taken him what is it? Seven years to get to where he is now. So when people look at him, they're like, oh, he's this overnight success. But he's not right. And he's very transparent about that because he's been consistently doing it for seven years and, yes, at some point it does catch on. But I think that's a really really important message for entrepreneurs for entrepreneurs, for anyone starting their own thing is that it's really just sticking with it, and the first year is the hardest first year and a half, whatever it is but it will happen. It's the only way. In my opinion, the only way that you will ever quote unquote fail is if you give up. If you don't give up, it will work. It will work at some stage maybe not quite in the timeframe that you want it to, but it's sticking with it consistently, believing in yourself, doing something daily, no matter how big or small, just to continue with it, and you will be successful.

Speaker 1: 21:59

Yeah, that and you will be successful. Yeah, it's just like riding a bike. Yeah, it's like riding a bike. It's like learn it, like learning a basketball.

Speaker 1: 22:02

You know, eventually, a little kid you can, you can't even get the basketball to the rim like you're trying, you're doing your best and you can't even get it but then eventually you figure it out and it finally goes in, and then you get addicted to it, right, and then you get the phone, then you get the gooseneck and you know you're starting to swish. Every single time you got three pointers, like no problem. And so that's what's really cool about the, that art of persistence and continuing something. You get better and better and better, right, like kobe bryant. You said he would take what? 500 or a thousand shots or maybe more. I don't remember what he said, but he would take like a certain amount of shots per like before practices alone, just because he wanted to have that edge. And I find it's just a real thing.

Speaker 1: 22:39

You know Tom Brady a lot of the same thing with him. You know he would talk about how, all of when he was playing at University of Michigan, a lot of the competitors who he was going against nobody really they kind of looked down on him. But you know he had to stay focused and keep learning from those people. And now it's like they talk about him Absolutely Interesting. And now it's like they talk about him, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 22:57

Interesting way that it's an interesting phenomenon right that art of persistence. It can get you to amazing places with your goals in life.

Speaker 2: 23:05

Yes, absolutely. I like that. The art of persistence, that's absolutely.

Speaker 1: 23:10

Couldn't agree more. Yeah, and so what's an actionable piece of advice you would give to someone listening right now who's feeling like you know, I want to get out of my job but I don't know if it's the right time, I don't know if I can do it right and that's cut. You're getting into that imposter syndrome again, you know. So what should they do to just flip that, to change that? If they don't know all of the pieces right, if they don't know pretty much anything about business and just kind of where we were when we first started, what would be that tactical advice that could just catapult them to where we are right now when it comes to knowledge and experience and learning things?

Speaker 2: 23:45

So I think the very first thing if they've never done any kind of business before and they don't really know what they want to do, then I think that's the first starting point is work with someone who can really get you to a point where you are absolutely clear on what you want and then, once you know what you want, then work on a plan to get you there. So I think it's really important not to just like quit your work and start doing something and hoping it's going to work. You need to be absolutely, absolutely this is such an important point is get really really clear on what it is that you want. And then how do you get there?

Speaker 2: 24:17

So, yes, there is a phase where there's a little bit more work because you have to. You're fully employed and you're starting, at the beginning, your side hustle, but you have to do that and be confident or be in a position so that you can do the both until you're at a point where you then can move over to your side hustle full-time. But I really do believe that it all starts with being absolutely clear on what it is that you want to achieve, having someone on your corner to get you there, and then learning what you need to learn along the way to get you to the point of being able to quit your job and go into your, to your passion, to your passion and what it is that you really want to do in life.

Speaker 1: 24:55

Yeah, and so for that person who gets to that point and they finally figured it out, right, they're doing their thing and they're now in the business space, they're in the entrepreneurship space. They have some passive income Well, there is no such thing as passive income, right, but they have some easier income coming in, some more income coming in. Things are starting to work out. What's the next step? You know, like what you guys are working on. I'm sure you guys have some big things going on in the next few years, right. So for that entrepreneur who's just starting, what should they kind of do?

Speaker 2: 25:25

So they're earning a bit of it. So, just so I'm understanding, they already are earning a passive income. Is it enough to cover what their current basis is?

Speaker 1: 25:32

Yeah, so let's just say hypothetically, they are now like they're making a good six figures a month, right, 10 figure like 10K a month to maybe like 100K a month. They're doing pretty well in business.

Speaker 2: 25:44

Okay, well, at that stage they can certainly definitely leave their corporate job or whatever their job is. Well, I would say, if they would be ready to leave the job, just make sure that there's enough in the bank so that you're you know, you're comfortable for the next six months or whatever, in case anything happens. But then I think it really starts getting to diversification. So you've been doing this one thing, whatever it may be. Let's just say coaching. That's the easiest for me to explain. So you're doing the one-on-one coaching, for example. Now is it maybe time to expand into group coaching? Or do you want to do live presentations? Or do you want to be holding workshops? Do you want to be holding retreats? So it's figuring out. Then, what is the next step to up-level, to scale, to broaden, Do you start employing people? So it really depends very much on what is the business that you're doing and how can you look at scaling it and up leveling it.

Speaker 1: 26:33

Awesome, awesome, awesome. And then let's talk real estate a little bit. Where do you see real estate going and what can you teach us about real estate that we need to know as investors, as entrepreneurs? What's something that you don't really see on LinkedIn, as a real estate professional yourself, that you would want to see?

Speaker 2: 26:53

I think there's not enough in my personal opinion.

Speaker 2: 26:55

There's not enough honesty. There's this massive hype about how everything is either disastrous and everything is falling apart and inflation, everything is awful and then at the same time, oh, life is so wonderful and you've got all these deals and everything going on. So if the bigger companies could get together and share because they do these reports internally and share what is truly do these reports internally and share what is truly happening in the marketplace and with that information, people can make more informed decisions. So in Canada now, for example, we've just dropped a basis point, which is fantastic, so the sentiment is a lot more positive now, but we're coming off a really bad year. So, understanding that there is this positive upswing and anyone wanting to invest, now's the time to jump in. If you want to do something, do it before the herd mentality kicks in. So if you want to and I come from a commercial perspective, not residential If you want to do something, do your research, connect with the correct people and then jump in before the herd does and before things change massively.

Speaker 1: 27:54

I think that's excellent advice. Yes, real estate is pretty wild today. It is pretty wild. Yeah, america it's definitely. We have like 13% inflation rights going on today in the United States, so it's insane to want to invest in real estate today. It's like our parents. It's a different time than it was like ago. It was just much easier to get your hands on some real estate and today it's just like wow, it's definitely competitive. I'm always looking for multifamilies, I'm always looking for apartments and I'm just like, oh my God, this is insane. I remember in 08, it was just like, even with the crash, like before the crash during the housing bubble, it was just like, wow, it's not this bad.

Speaker 1: 28:33

So it's interesting to see what happens. That's why I wanted to ask you because I had seen that you've done a lot of real estate stuff and so I was just so what should our like the people at the very top of real estate, right Like Fannie Mac, all of that, what's the solution? How do we solve this? How do we break down the real estate market in a way to where we can keep the housing markets going up right, like the prices of houses going up, so we can get the most out of our investments, but also, you know, make it affordable for, you know, the average investor, somebody who wants to get started investing? How do we make that possible?

Speaker 2: 29:07

That is a big question. How do you make it possible for the average investor or for the starting investor? So, so, I think, for the starting investor. Again, don't go at it alone. It's. There's too many permutations, there's too many things that you just don't know, and those are expensive mistakes to make. So don't. There's no need for you to be making those massively financially expensive mistakes. Learn again. Partner with someone who is trustworthy, trustworthy, who's got a reputation, and there's so many people out there who are good people and actually do want to help. Partner with them. Learn from them and start small.

Speaker 2: 29:41

Don't start off by buying an apartment building. Even if you have the money, my suggestion would not be to start that big. Start with buying. If it's a condo, buy a condo. Buy one door. Don't go bigger than that. Learn on that. Make the mistakes on that Next time around. Buy another, tweak what you learned the first time around and then start growing your portfolio. Wonderful thing is like if something doesn't go right and you can always sell it and you can learn it and then you can start again. So I really, really think is don't bite off what you can chew but that doesn't overwhelm you.

Speaker 1: 30:15

Yeah, I couldn't agree more. It's definitely. I just had to put that out there because I've seen it myself. There's, like you said, there's so much, there's so much. When you look, when you go on social media, it's just not exactly how it really is right, like there's not a lot of deals happening and, you know, the market might not be as great as LinkedIn might say or, you know, instagram might say. So I like that you mentioned that because it's just it's very true.

Speaker 2: 30:38

Yeah, but also really important to find the person that you, that you can trust. And a lot of people are excellent salesmen or saleswomen, salespeople. So so, really, if you can, through through a referral, through your network, through just having the conversations, going to meetups, going to real estate forums, going to just these different places, networking functions where you can get to meet people and connect with people, get to know people, and then you find a person that you trust that you can work with.

Speaker 1: 31:08

Those are great.

Speaker 2: 31:10

Yeah, yeah, very, very important.

Speaker 1: 31:13

Yes, those definitely work. Your network is your net worth at the end of the day.

Speaker 2: 31:16

Exactly.

Speaker 1: 31:17

It's just very true and I've learned that to be true. I mean, I'm I'm probably more of an introvert. I don't know, I'm kind of I'm more of an introvert, probably both, and revert Right. So, but even for me, I understand that in business and entrepreneurship, you got to kind of force yourself to be an extrovert because it is important. You know, it's like you said earlier in the beginning of this interview, right, like being able to communicate with people and to connect with people. It's one of the last things we're going to have before the robots take over. You know it's that human connection is just so big, it's a big deal and it is important, especially in business.

Speaker 2: 31:50

So you, it's a big deal and it is important, especially in business, you know I would like to add a slightly different perspective to that.

Speaker 2: 31:54

So I agree with you yes, you do need to be able to have conversations with people.

Speaker 2: 32:00

But if you or a person is not comfortable to go into these 100 plus networking functions there are different functions. We can find the smaller ones Maybe it's like a 10 person meetup or it's a I don't know something where there's just less people and start there, start having conversations in a smaller scale until you get your confidence and then maybe move to the I don't know maybe the larger ones 20 plus people, whatever until you are comfortable to go to the bigger functions. So I think there again, like, start, start just slightly out of your comfort zone until you're comfortable in that next level. Then again expand your comfort zone a little bit and then go to the big forums and then forge your connections there. So I would caution to push yourself too hard and go to these two big functions and have these conversations, or probably actually not even have these conversations because you're probably too nervous to have these conversations and then you give up. So rather, start with something which is slightly out of your comfort zone and grow it from there.

Speaker 1: 32:56

I think that's excellent. Yes, yeah, that's a great twist on it and that's the great way. That's the best way, I think. For sure you know, start small, start easy, get some practice in, but definitely put yourself out there for sure.

Speaker 2: 33:09

And celebrate it. I think that's also something that's really important that we just don't do Like if you've never been to any kind of functional, you've never done a certain thing in life. Instead of just like, okay, great, it's done. Now actually take the time and be like, yeah, me, I did this. I've never done this before, it's out of my comfort zone, but, yes, I did it. And that also reinforces the confidence and it grows the confidence. So doing the action, celebrating the action, reinforces it so that you have a confidence to take another step in another action. So it's a it kind of like builds you up on the success scale.

Speaker 1: 33:39

Right, right, right, when you like. Working out for me is a big deal, that's a big priority in my life, and the reason is because I just love to see the results. I like to see like, okay, you know, I want to carve this part of my body, and then you do it within like six months and you're like, sweet, I really hit that goal. I look great. Yeah, or whatever that might be Like, I want to hit 315 this month. Sweet, you hit, you benched 315. And that was like the best moment ever for me when I was able to get three plates. I was like, yes, I worked for like eight and so that was huge. But it's, it's so true, it's again like we were talking about earlier. Right, it's like riding a bike, it's like you're just consistently learning new things, you're getting better every day, and so that's kind of how you're claiming the win absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 34:22

And there's a big difference between claiming the win and celebrating versus, like bragging about it, like so, if those are two completely different things, you get to be proud of your achievement. That's not bragging, it's just. It's purely you get to be proud of what you have done. So, yes, that's excellent.

Speaker 1: 34:36

And as far as your life coaching business goes, kind of, what are you guys working on today and what's the goal for the next five years?

Speaker 2: 34:45

So I'm actually just I do a combination. I do one-on-one coaching and I do group coaching. I like both, but the reason I offer both is that sometimes again speaking to the extrovert, introvert sometimes people are just more comfortable in a one-on-one setting and that's absolutely fine. Sometimes what happens is that one-on-one people then actually want to migrate into the group coaching settings. So there's lots of options there.

Speaker 2: 35:19

The group coaching I really enjoy because I find that in a sort of a container and in a group setting you can get a lot out of people and it's really quite like.

Speaker 2: 35:21

It just makes you feel more comfortable if you know that you're not the only person who's going through this.

Speaker 2: 35:22

It's one thing reading the stats that 70 to 80% of people have had imposter syndrome, but it's another thing actually being in a group and hearing people's stories and being like, okay, I can identify with this, and being like, okay, I can identify with this.

Speaker 2: 35:31

And if you have that sort of group of like-minded people it's easier, I find, to get to a positive state quicker and to get people to goals quicker. So my goal really is just to grow that to reach as many people as I possibly can to help them get over their imposter syndrome so that they really can up-level their career and maybe it's getting a promotion, maybe it's starting something completely by themselves. Whatever, it is getting them to a point where they are confident enough within themselves to take that step, to do it and to consistently stay with it. And then, in this group setting and with me, we have that accountability to just help people keep on track. And that's really what motivates me to see people go after their dreams and to go after their passions and achieve it. It's just, it's massively motivating to me.

Speaker 1: 36:20

I think that's awesome, that you're building a community too. Building a community is tough, and it is awesome, though, when it comes to you know, getting to that goal right. Like, you got to have a team. You can't have a football team without a team. You can't have a football team without a team. You can't have a baseball team without a team. You got to have a team, because that's what creates the magic.

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Speaker 1: 38:32

It absolutely does.

Speaker 2: 38:33

Yeah, I agree, and you know, even from a swimming perspective, like, yes, you race by yourself, but you can't do it without a team. You train every day together, you train 30 hours a week or whatever it is. By the time you run and you've done your lifting and you've done the swimming or whatever, to have a team to lean on and a coach to guide you is just like that's really just the winning formula yeah, and so what about some personal goals, like what in your own life, you know what are you working on and what's happening.

Speaker 1: 38:59

Where do you want to be in the next 10 years?

Speaker 2: 39:03

Where do I want to be in the next 10 years? So I really would like to grow my coaching business to such a point where I can also employ people. I've got one employee at the moment, but I'd like to grow that so that I also can go after this freedom that we were speaking about, so that I can take my family on holidays and we can. You know, the lovely thing about doing online work is that you can work from anywhere in the world and still provide that value. So that's definitely still something.

Speaker 1: 39:30

Yes, that's a big reason I got into SMMA. Yes, so continue yeah.

Speaker 2: 39:34

But still providing that value right. It doesn't matter where in the world you're doing it from. As long as you're providing the value and getting the people the outcome and getting them to what it is that they want, then you're still doing it and enjoying it. But in terms of personal goals, so I really miss swimming. It's such a silly little thing, but I haven't swum in many, many, many years. Miss swimming, I would love to. It's such a silly little thing, but I haven't swum in in many, many, many years. So I'd love to get back into the pool again. I'd love to swim again, um, just from a personal basis, you know, just to get back into. I'll never get back into that shape again, so I'm certainly not going to be training 30 hours a week anymore, but just to get fitter, healthier, um, because I feel also like that. That being fit and being healthy influences every aspect of your life and I've kind of been letting that go a little bit. So I want to bring that up again just to balance everything.

Speaker 1: 40:19

I think that's great.

Speaker 2: 40:20

That's actually a surprisingly big goal of mine.

Speaker 1: 40:23

Yeah, for me, like I'm still in law enforcement right now, but it's kind of more of a choice because I've just been for me. It's just kind of I worked hard enough to do it, I'm here, let's just do it a little bit longer. But you know, a big reason I got into business is the same reasons. Right, to have that freedom to be flexible and to be able to go wherever you want, to just work from a laptop, that's an amazing thing, right. Work right from your phone, that's an amazing thing. And to be able to have that independence is just a whole. It's a great thing, right.

Speaker 1: 40:54

Being able to go to jujitsu every day, being able to, you know, learn guitar for me, I like that stuff. I really knew how to do that. I can't wait to like really master more, right? You know, you can't do all those things that you want to do with your spare time unless you get yourself that time. And so that's where owning a business or you know know, you're running a successful business, whatever you're doing, it should be entrepreneurial. That's what's going to give you that freedom in life, doing what you love. And so that's why I couldn't. I love having guests like you on, you know.

Speaker 2: 41:21

I love being here, but also just to stack on to that. So it's um that making sure that we keep a balance across everything. So in my opinion, there's no such thing as a work-life balance. That's something that was coined in the 1980s for baby boomers. There is no such thing as a work-life balance, because you're always going to be. If you want to get ahead in one thing in life, you're going to have to lean into that area a little bit more, right? So when you're starting a business or so, then yes, you're going to be spending more time there and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2: 41:49

I don't know why society tells us that's a bad thing to be working hard at something if you love it and you're passionate about it. But there does come a point where you need to even the scales a little bit and maybe you haven't spent time with family, you haven't spent enough time with friends or whatever it is. So it's just it's more of an ebb and a flow versus having this perfect balance the whole time. So once you've done like, put in all the effort into the work, then balancing a little bit with being with your family, being in nature, being whatever it is that like fills you up again so that you can go back. So yeah, I just wanted to stack that on as well.

Speaker 1: 42:18

For sure. Yeah, that health, wealth, love, happiness, you want all of it. Yes, you want an abundance of all of those things. That's what really creates the good life. You know it's not having cause you don't want to be. You know you don't want to be 500 pounds with like $10 billion, right?

Speaker 3: 42:32

That wouldn't be fun, exactly.

Speaker 1: 42:35

You don't want to have a life-threatening illness with millions of dollars. So you want to be able to enjoy your life, enjoy your family, and everything you're doing should be really for your generational wealth, your future bloodline. That's the way I like to think of it. And really just having a balance of all of it.

Speaker 2: 42:50

Yeah, absolutely. And for me and for my husband, a big thing is also just to show our kids that life isn't just about work. You can actually enjoy what you're doing, you can love what you're doing, you can be passionate about what you're doing. It's fine to work hard, but then to find the balance to equal it out again and to spend time with the family. So for us, for both my husband and I, it's important to show that you know work, you can be passionate about it, you can love it, you can enjoy it, and just to instill that in them as well. So it's not just like, oh, I'm stuck in a nine to five, it's, which is there's nothing wrong with a nine to five, you can absolutely enjoy a nine to five, but what important is that you are enjoying it.

Speaker 1: 43:31

That is really important. Yes, thomas Jefferson talked about the pursuit of happiness. Right, and that's where you're going to be able to pursue happiness is to be able to have that flexibility and the freedom in your life to do what you want to do. You know to balance all the important things at once if you can.

Speaker 4: 43:45

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 43:46

And so that's kind of the key, and if you can figure that out, that's where you can really actually pursue happiness. You'll have that ability to pursue the happiness. So yeah, absolutely. And so where can everybody find you on social media?

Speaker 2: 43:59

I am pretty active on facebook, on instagram, on linkedin, everywhere um at ronnie v coaching very very active there and anything else that you're promoting, any big programs?

Speaker 2: 44:12

so so what I, what I'm offering at the moment, which I'm actually quite excited about, is really just it's a 30 minute call with anyone who's interested to help you identify where you are currently at, what is holding you back and where do you want to go. Links us again on Facebook and on LinkedIn. Just click on it. Book that free 30-minute call with me and let me help you get from where you're currently at to see what it is that you want and what is holding you back from getting you there.

Speaker 1: 44:39

Absolutely everybody. Make sure that you visit those websites. I'll make sure I put it on the screen too, so everybody can see it, as we're watching this.

Speaker 2: 44:45

Fabulous, thank you.

Speaker 1: 44:46

Thank you so much for being on the show. I wish I could make these longer. Unfortunately, I have to go to a chef right after this and then I have to work with a few other clients, so we're super busy and jam-packed today, but that's the beauty of life.

Speaker 2: 44:59

Absolutely Well. Thank you so much for having me here, brandon. I really, really appreciate it. It was wonderful to have this chat.

Speaker 1: 45:04

Absolutely. Thank you very much for being on you.